“If Socrates was born, then Socrates was generated either when Socrates did not exist or when Socrates already existed. But if he is said to have been generated when he already existed, he will have been generated twice; and if when he did not exist, then at the same time Socrates both existed and did not exist – he existed insofar as he had been generated and he did not exist by hypothesis. And if Socrates died, he died either when he was alive or when he was dead. He did not die, when he was alive – for then the same man would have been both living and dead. Nor when he was dead; for then he would have been dead twice. Therefore Socrates did not die.”5 [It is implicit from the beginning that there is a time at which Socrates existed. Sextus chose not explicitly to draw, though they do follow, the additional conclusions that Socrates was not born, that Socrates existed always, and will always exist, and that it is the same for everyone, that is, that for every x, if x ever exists, then x existed always and will always exist.]“